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PaulB
Overfiend
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 Posted - 12/11/2006 : 11:51:19
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Hi guys,
Just to let you know, by popular request from yesterdays session I've added a link to an illustration of the kamae no kata onto the website.
To access it, go to Gradings and syllabi, then 9th Kyu, then click on the link under the kamae no kata heading.
If you want to print off a copy, then once it takes you to the image you can right click and save the image to your own pc so that you can print it off. If there are any problems just let me know.
Have fun and take care!
Paul
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"Although we may be meeting for the first time, I accept everyone as a friend.
In truth we already know one another, profoundly, as human beings who share the same goals:
We all seek happiness and do not want suffering"
-HH the Dalai Lama-
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PaulB
Overfiend
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Posted - 12/11/2006 : 12:24:23
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Well guys, I just checked my e-mail and discovered that we've actually been doubly efficient in answering your request!
If you want a copy of the illustration immediately, just do as above, alternatively, just hang on a week or so and you'll recieve from adam a training manual that he's generously spent a lot of time and effort producing for you. It includes that illustration in detail and much much more!
Nice work by the way adam!
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"Although we may be meeting for the first time, I accept everyone as a friend.
In truth we already know one another, profoundly, as human beings who share the same goals:
We all seek happiness and do not want suffering"
-HH the Dalai Lama-
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Woolfben
Newbie
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Posted - 12/11/2006 : 19:48:57
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Excellent! Thanks for that, it's muchly helpful :) Now to learn them all... and the Japanese names...
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Owen
Old Hand
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Posted - 14/11/2006 : 14:42:30
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The illustrations are a useful memory aid, good work! 
I do have one question though: in the syllabus listing there seems to be an extra stance, Bobi (between Hicho and Kosei), that I don't seem to remember and can't spot a drawing for. Is this just a variation, or has my memory finally checked out of reality?
Owen
"It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?" - Ronald Reagan |
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Cannon_Fodder
Not so Fiendish Admin
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Posted - 14/11/2006 : 14:48:53
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There are a few which haven't been added to the drawings, the drawings are a little older and haven't got all of them. And in some of the drawings the order varies, I believe the syllabus has the correct order <ruffles notes and tries not to look frantic> the pictures are an aide more than anything.
MAtt
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switerzland they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock
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PaulB
Overfiend
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Posted - 14/11/2006 : 15:08:29
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Hi owen,
as matt said as regards the illustrations,
we did do bobi on saturday, remind me tonight and i can show it again. As a quick memory aid its the one where you have one fist (right) punched out in front of you, the other at your left hip, and you're standing squared on.
see you later!
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"Although we may be meeting for the first time, I accept everyone as a friend.
In truth we already know one another, profoundly, as human beings who share the same goals:
We all seek happiness and do not want suffering"
-HH the Dalai Lama-
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Owen
Old Hand
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Posted - 14/11/2006 : 15:20:50
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Ahhh, got it! *smacks head with iron bar*
Off now to replace my brain with a sponge - better retention! 
"It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?" - Ronald Reagan |
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Owen
Old Hand
22 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2006 : 13:01:03
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Okay, next question, does anyone have illustrations/videos of Kihon Happo? Not so much for the techniques themselves, but more so I can remember which bit of japansese goes with which technique!
Owen
"It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?" - Ronald Reagan |
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Cannon_Fodder
Not so Fiendish Admin
106 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2006 : 13:33:25
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There are basic descritions knocking around, believe there may be a little handbook coming out with these gems in due course, the first three can be determined by name, as it relates to the stance, the latter ones relate to the lock/throw. personally i believe that this is something for when you've done all of them, not sure how many you've done yet, also better to ask someone in person, or make your own notes and draw your own diagrams.
Matt
P.S. Sorry forgot to answer the real question previously and had to be bailed out by paul, myabe its my mind we should be worried about!
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switerzland they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock
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Owen
Old Hand
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Posted - 15/11/2006 : 14:07:07
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We've gone over them all at least once now. As you say, with the strikes the stance makes it obvious what the name is, it's the others that I'm struggling to remember the names for.
As it happens, I've just found a website that has videos of all eight parts, but I'm reluctant to post a link as they're stylistically different and I don't want to diverge from what we've been shown.
As for the mind, it's probably all part of getting old 
Owen
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Cannon_Fodder
Not so Fiendish Admin
106 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2006 : 14:35:58
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Owen your more than likely older than I am!
Best not to post the videos, i've they give you a rough idea then use them, but only to refresh your memory for names, the video should never represent the actual instruction you get in a dojo.
Rant over!
They'll stick the more you practise them
Matt
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switerzland they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock
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Owen
Old Hand
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Posted - 16/11/2006 : 15:02:16
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Okay, having kicked, battered, cajoled and threatened my memory in to some sort of useful function, my next question is: does anyone have the english translations for Kamae and Kihon Happo?
Owen
"It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?" - Ronald Reagan |
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PaulB
Overfiend
50 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2006 : 15:39:22
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Most of the names don't translate that well into english, they're often metaphorical/cultural rather than descriptive.
To be honest, with the kamae its probably easier to learn them by the japanese from the start, we sometimes give them playful names (e.g. doko is answering the phone), but its easier to learn them properly from the start than to have to learn the japanese later because no-one else in the booj uses the same play names (especially if you're training elsewhere already).
You'll get english descriptions of how to do the kihon in the handbook, but again its best if you can learn the japanese earlier on as regards the names. We sometimes refer to them as number 1,2,3 etc, but sometimes different dojos do them in different orders. Again nicknames are used, but we have had people in the past who after training for three years only knew ura gyaku (one of our most basic locks) as "jam jar" (a bham dojo nick name) and therefore did not know what an visiting instructor was asking them to do, even though they'd done it constantly for three years! Best to give yourself a head start if you can and prioritise the japanese!
Paul
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"Although we may be meeting for the first time, I accept everyone as a friend.
In truth we already know one another, profoundly, as human beings who share the same goals:
We all seek happiness and do not want suffering"
-HH the Dalai Lama-
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Owen
Old Hand
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Posted - 16/11/2006 : 16:00:53
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Hmmm, sorry, I think I phrased the question poorly. I already know the Japanese names for the techniques and stances, but not knowing what they mean (or represent) bugs me.
For example, Omote gyaku, Omote gyaku tsuki and Ura gyaku are clearly linked. This much is apparent from training, and also linguistically as they all contain the word "gyaku". Unfortunately I just don't know what "gyaku" means.
I think perhaps the problem is me looking at this with too much curiosity rather than just appreciating what I'm learning.
Owen
"It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?" - Ronald Reagan |
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Antonik
Old Hand
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Posted - 21/11/2006 : 20:49:02
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If you want acutal translations of words I'm not sure that asking on the forum is the best place. As Paul said, the names dont translate well so we dont really bother too much with the english translations, if we refer to a technique in english its as a brum nick name.
Keep asking questions, we just may not have the answer!
"For that which once existed is no more, and that which was not has come to be; and so the whole round of motion is gone through again." Ovid, Metamorphoses |
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Oni
Old Hand
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Posted - 23/11/2006 : 10:22:06
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Gyaku usually translates to lock ,however the japanese can be quite pesky and some words can have several different meanings depending on how the Kanji is written.On a brighter note ,I think Matt/Adam has been working on a glossary and some sort of mini training manual which everyone will probaly find useful once it gets given out
Big Carl
Never talk about your knowledge as you could lose it,
Confront a defeat with a smile even if you are closely facing it,
and when you are looking into death's eyes,die laughing !!
Toda Shinryuken
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